I wonder if anyone has any ideas on this. Who, What is behind the WTS. Is it just men genuinely making mistakes but are sincerely trying to serve God? Or is this some kind of Masonic entrapment, to build a financial empire.(imagination running wild!) Why do they try so hard to keep people in by deception? Is it because they fear the members will lose their lives or is it they fear they (the WTS)will lose their financial contributions. Any books, links, thoughts etc ..thanks xxx Strawberry Cake
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Do the Governing body know they are being dishonest?
by strawberry cake ini wonder if anyone has any ideas on this.
who, what is behind the wts.
is it just men genuinely making mistakes but are sincerely trying to serve god?
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Why Do JW's not use Child care or Sunday Type School?
by kwr inwhile i have only been to one meeting my entire life i have always found it odd that jw's don't use child care or sunday type school for children.
what is the reason for this policy by wts?
tia.
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quote..I say that the "Ignore the Kids" policy is having a predictable and positive influence. Please dont give the guys any ideas!!! Oops, shhhhhh! Your right!!
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Why Do JW's not use Child care or Sunday Type School?
by kwr inwhile i have only been to one meeting my entire life i have always found it odd that jw's don't use child care or sunday type school for children.
what is the reason for this policy by wts?
tia.
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This is an incredibly selfish, uncaring situation. Children are incredibly eager to learn. If the society could give them their own meeting..... of bible learning/drama/ fun/games and singing. This would be showing love and understanding for the needs of an innocent child. There is a sinister lack of TRUE love in this Organization. That is the reason there is no Sunday type school. The old men at Bethel, don't care enough to change the format to suit the brothers and sisters. The brothers and sisters have to suit them. My middle son (when younger) especially used to tear away at his finger till they bled and he would shake his leg in torment.All of my boys shook. Now that I have backed out of attending, my youngests' nails are growing back!! Stupid me, thought they were just being naughty and attention seeking...looking back, I am ashamed that I did not follow my instincts.( I think I lost them!) xxx Strawberry Cake
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Yesterday I told my Book study conductor that I will not be coming back to the meetings at all and to close my ministry account as I will not be reporting. I had considered fading slowish ..but couldn't stomach it. Over the last few months I have relinquished all my studies. It was after reading the new 'light' on the generation. This led to me investigating more and finding out more falsehoods.This led to shepherdings and being told not to spread my opinions. Lately I have been having conversations(some heated )with friends in the congregation about why I have left. They are all shocked. I have told them straight up why I have left..( I wanted them to know I haven't left Jehovah.)I know I should have been more discrete, but I find I am not afraid of the consequences, also, fortunately I have a loving 'worldly' family and my now exJW husband agrees with me.Tonight I had a difficult conversation with a sister who is loyal to the org. She said she will have to shun me because she has to protect her beliefs. I tried to explain how the org tells her to do this, and not the bible because I am not leaving Jehovah. She was taken by surprise by my views.In the end we just said goodbye/take care to each other. Tomorrow I am invited to a JW gathering. I am wondering if I should go or not. I feel I am not rejecting them so maybe I should just go... Its turning into a scandal as I was very involved in the congregation.
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What is your current status with the Watchtower Society and Congregation?
by RULES & REGULATIONS ini'm a baptized member considered ''inactive.
'' i don't hand in ''service reports'',attend maybe 3 meetings a month,ain't signed up for the ministry school and will never attend any convention or the ''book study.
'' always make the ''memorial.
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Brothers and sisters wondering were I am..
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Joy Or Sorrow When You First Found Out It Was False?
by serotonin_wraith infor me, it was joy.
i was raised in the religion, and i always figured i'd be dying along with 6 billion others because i hated the meetings, the preaching work and the rules, morality and threats of 'jehovah'.
i did not want it to be true.. for others here, finding out it was false was a hard time to go through.. as well as asking which feelings you had at first (joy/sorrow/or add your own) i have a follow up question for those who found it hard- what was it that made the impending deaths of 6 billion people okay for you?
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I felt disgusted with the WT and the elders who I felt should know more than they do. Then relief and then Joy! Joy that I am free to make my life as beautiful as I know it can be. Strawberry Cake.
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Swaying Whilst Singing
by KW13 inwhy did we used to do this?
whenever we sang/prayed we used to sway like crazy lol.
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A sister I knew had just come from Africa to England said she wanted to sway along with the songs but her new British African husband said ' we don't do that here' so she had to stop. She said in Africa the songs were harmonized and people swayed/danced along. In our congregation it was dismal. Especially the elders...I think they just moved their lips.They all looked liked they had swallowed embalming fluid. Sometimes there would be a sister who would sing out, determined to be joyful, but she would just bring attention to herself and look ridiculous. Its true for me too. Holding my child or someone elses child meant I could sway.(sway away the tedium.)
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Peoples temple cult
by jacethespace ini just watched a documentary about the peoples temple cult and was suprised to find there is some intresting similarites between there attitude beliefs and the watchtower society.. they began as an ordinary group intrested in morals and god and jim jones gradually manipulated them to the point of murder and suicide.. he would reprimand people in front of the whole congregation playing on peoples fears and guilt to the point where sometimes he would encourage others to hit a " wrongdoer".as he got more control over the people they feared to leave and anyone that spoke about leaving was turned in by there own family, hmm that sounds familar.
jim jones feared some that got out and tried to shield the congregation from bad press which is why around 900 were " encouraged " to leave america and go to guyana to what they called jonestown.he told his members that they couldnt leave and that the world would harm them if they ever left.. at one time he passed around a cup to drink and then told the congregation they had drank poison then after they panicked he told them it wasnt true he was just " testing to see how loyal they would be to him".. when they moved to jonestown they set up there own paradise.they grew there own food and made themselves completly independant from the outside world.they built there own homes and would have no outside information except a loudspeaker which jim jones spoke over and used recorded speechs on even throughout the night.he was telling them that the whole world was coming to turn on them and kill them and take away what they had.. when they said they wanted to leave he would say they were committing " blasphemy" by leaving and they would change there mind.. sadly at the end they encouraged mass suicide and took with them a visiting congressman.. paradise quickly turned into chaos and a nightmare and it got me thinking about the wachtowers utopian dream of paradise on earth.if they watchtower cant get things right now how the hell are they going to be capable of governing the whole planet in " the new system.. this isnt the same documentary but heres a link to one documentary about the peoples temple.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3625536419231928674&q=peoples+temple&total=2133&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=4.
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Me and my husband watched it. The way Jim Jones become their God and their bible also the way the people stopped thinking for themselves highlighted for me how cults work....how the Watchtower works....Glad I got out, I hope my 2 sons will come soon.... strawberry cake
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Hi, First Post
by AuroraB inhey there.
i'm new to the forums and just had to say hi, and thank you to all of you who've shared your stories which have let me know finally and for sure that i'm not crazy and nowhere near as abnormal as i've been feeling...well, forever, really, but more so over these last few years!!!
i can't tell you what a good feeling that is, but i suspect you already know.
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Hi, I'm glad you are here. It really helps to see that others have come to the same realization and that you can be free of this restrictive and oppressive lifestyle. I have discovered ( in the last 2-3 months)that the idea of the org being a 'spiritual paradise' is an illusion....created by the WTS. I feel relieved that I wised up. Thankfully, my husband did too. So life begins a new...with you in control and with you having the freedom to think, live and act as you please. All the best..Strawberry cake.
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How many people did you bring into the j.ws & how many to jwd?
by karter incant remember how many i brought in , so far 1 to jwd.
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I had to abandon 5 long time and 2 new studies when I wised up.Also JWs I was encouraging. (pioneer assist)It was difficult because I care about these'studies'. I view them like family and I have watched their children grow up and been their 'aunty'. I had to come clean with 3 of my studies..I felt I owed them that. They are continuing with the meetings. At the moment I haven't a clue what my revelations have done to their faith in the WT. I am reluctant to talk any more to them as I am trying to fade quickly and quietly.